| Cigarette Surplus |
[14 May 2012|01:10am] |
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So I've recently been selling cloves by the pack/carton on ebay as "collector's items", but today ebay finally pulled my listings and told me if I reposted them, they would ban my account. So... now I've got several hundred dollars worth of product on my hands, and it would take me years to smoke it all. So if anyone wants to buy a carton or even just a few packs, let me know. Shoot me a PM or comment on this post if you're interested and I'll get back to you ASAP. They usually will arrive in 2-3 days with priority mail. I've got of the following on hand: Djarum 76, Djarum Black, Djarum Black Cappuccino, Djarum Coklat Extra, Djarum Coklat, Gudang Garam Merah, Gudang Garam Signature.
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| WTO Rules in favor of Indonesia! The dark days may be limited! |
[04 Apr 2012|07:38pm] |
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http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/04/04/wto-usa-indonesia-idINDEE8330KR20120404
The World Trade Organization on Wednesday dealt a blow to a U.S. law barring the sale of clove-flavored cigarettes to discourage children from smoking, saying it was unfair to Indonesia because menthol cigarettes can still be sold in the United States.
A case that has been open for more than 2 years now, WTO made a decision months ago that Menthol Cigarettes and Clove Cigarettes are like products. The US appealed the WTO's decision in January. On April 4th, 2012, the WTO upheld their judgement that Menthol and Clove Cigarettes are "like" products.
Therefore, the US must bring their laws back into alignment with international trading and the WTO.
This means the US must also include Menthol Cigarettes on the ban, or re-allow Clove Cigarettes to be imported and sold in the United States.
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| Kretek Retailer Update? |
[25 Mar 2012|11:15am] |
Hi everyone! Seems like it's been a while since we last put together a good list of reputable online clove retailers, so....from whom is everyone ordering these days? Anyone offering discount codes to the CA community? Accept PayPal? Quick, reliable shipping? Let's get some reviews happening! I'm jonesin' and want to place an order! :D
Cheers!
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[13 Feb 2012|06:08pm] |
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Seems that Djarum is going to no longer produce the Black Tea flavor. Which is very sad news as i loooooved them so. Now i will need something new to puff on. :(
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| Tips for RYO |
[07 Feb 2012|02:32am] |
Hey guys. I haven't posted since I shared my recipe for RYO. I've changed it up quite a bit since then and have had some pretty good results lately. I've been getting pipe tobaccos, shisha tobacco and regular tobaccos and blending them, based on my moods. Because of the fruitiness in most cloves that is hard to replicate, I've been playing with various fruit flavors. So far Peach seems to be the most complimentary to the clove and other spices. Here's my updated current recipe:
Pick any tobacco of your choice.*
add to taste:
ground or crushed clove. not too large and not too powdery
ground cinnamon
ground nutmeg
ground cardamom
mix well then add diced Peach Shisha tobacco or peach pipe tobacco and mix again (you can try other flavors as well. My favorite batch had Washington Peach, Vanilla and whiskey flavored pipe tobaccos blended with regular tobacco)
After mix seems consistent, drizzle Vanilla over tobacco and continue to mix until entire mixture is partially damp but not wet to touch. this will help the spice stick to and soak into the tobacco. Continue to mix by hand as it dries so it dries evenly. Then roll one, try it and add additional spices to taste. Roll and enjoy!
Another tip, rather than trying to sweeten the filter, just buy a few sticks of BIG RED Lip Balm and use it on your lips before each smoke. Makes a huge difference. :)
*While Shags pack and burn nicer, the spices don't stick as well so require a lot more effort to get a consistent flavor. For this reason, I tend to avoid the shags but I'm working on a way to make my own "bricks" or "Paper" with the spices pressed into it so it doesn't have a chance to fall out. I saw a video on YouTube where a guy uses a pasta maker to make his own shag. I will update you when and if I get this working to my satisfaction.
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| Thoughts on various clove cigs I've had |
[03 Feb 2012|03:57pm] |
Just my opinions on the kreteks I have tried- figured someone might like some opinions on some before buying.
Djarum 76- These are by far the sweetest I have ever tried. Not just the sweetened paper, but the blend is just incredibly sweet. They have very strong fruity notes and they are fairly smooth. I'm not a huge fan of how slowly they burn though, and they can be hard to inhale because they're so tightly rolled. Very strong eugenol numbing on lips. 8/10
Djarum Coklat Extra- I was a bit disappointed by these. They are said to have a very unique sweet taste. The clove notes seemed very muted to me. They have a slightly sweet paper, but the smoke tasted a lot like a regular cigarette. The clove taste was minimal and very much in the background, so to speak. These are insanely thick, and they really bothered my throat after a while. Probably the least clove-y unfiltered kretek I've ever had. 6/10 EDIT: Ok, so I tried them again and I liked them a lot more than the first time. They seemed a lot sweeter and more clove tasting than I had first thought. I suppose I could raise up my rating to 7/10, but even though they are better than I had thought, they still aren't quite my thing.
Djarum Coklat (regular): These were really just as disappointing as the extras. Oddly, these have a little more flavor than the Extras, but still not very prominent. Unfiltered, fairly thick and they don't taper nearly at all. The smoke is pretty smooth, but it's very much like a regular cigarette. They have the aroma and taste of the 76s- that unique potpourri-like note, except way less assertive. They are a little sweet, and have quite a eugenol effect even though the cloves are largely undetectable in flavor. The packaging is strange- plastic wrapped cigarettes in a softpack wrapped in plastic. Not my kind of thing, I gave the rest to a friend. 4/10
Djarum Black Cappuccino: a Djarum black that is wrapped in white paper...? Yeah, and the flavor is almost as misleading to me. These burn super quickly (as they are very thin) and after smoking several with a friend, we decided these really have a very creamy taste to them. Not so much a coffee taste, but they definitely have a sweetness and creaminess that you get in coffee drinks. Really interesting smoke, to be honest. You get that creamy, rich taste in subtle notes that make you want more. I don't taste the cloves much. These are nice to smoke because of their uniqueness, but not quite the thing for someone like me who likes very clove-y kreteks. I wouldn't mind buying a couple packs though. 7/10
Djarum Mr. Brown: These are always sold as a Djarum brand but the package makes no mention of Djarum- it lists the manufacturer as "Steviana Ultra Tobacco". Interestingly it lists the HQ as being in the same town of Kudus as Djarum. Anyway, they're pretty close to what I remember Specials being like. They're extremely rich and dense smoke-wise, and the taste and aroma is like mega-kretek. Interestingly the paper is not sweetened, which I keep finding really unexpected each time I smoke one. They really remind me a lot of GG Suryas and Merahs (especially the latter- they have that same dense, incense-like quality) but slightly less fruity. The brick-red paper is really pretty. These are also incredibly smooth. 8/10
Sampoerna Dji Sam Soe unfiltered: I have a bit of a soft spot for these. These really are strong as heck. Very upfront and assertive tobacco taste, but also a very assertive clove taste. The thing I really enjoy about these is how they have such a pure clove taste- in other kreteks, such as Djarum 76s, there's fruity notes and notes of other spices. These on the other hand, are just like smelling a jar of dried cloves. Pretty minimalistic when it comes to flavor, but boy are they strong and tasty. These are hand rolled, so quality control seems to be a bit jumpy- some are much tighter rolled than others, and some have much less cloves than others. 9/10
Sampoerna A Mild: I tend to stay away from anything labeled mild, because I like flavor, but I was pretty surprised by these. They aren't too far off from Gudang Garams. They are super smooth (low tar and low nicotine content) and they do have a bit of an edge that's like a regular cigarette, but they are very sweet and the clove flavor is pretty assertive all things considered. Very long and thin, burn quickly. 8/10
Gudang Garam International: These are filtered and come in pretty small packs of 12. They have a great smell when you open the pack, but the clove smell really is minimal in the smoke. They are insanely sweet from the paper, but the blend doesn't seem to be very heavy on cloves or spices. I was a fan of these at first, but they seem to give me that after taste you get from regular cigarettes. 6/10
Gudang Garam Signature Milds Menthol: These are "mild", and as so, the clove notes aren't so pronounced. These come in packs of 20 and are much slimmer than any other Gudang Garams. Mega sweet paper, like the Internationals. They burn super quickly, but I'm not such a fan as they are mild on the cloves. They are good as a less clove-y kretek, and have less of an aftertaste than GG Ints. 5/10
Gudang Garam Merah: These are unfiltered king size, and they are pretty thick. They don't taper like most unfiltered kreteks. The smell of these is amazing. So densely sweet and spicy. Definitely the most unique smelling and tasting out of all of the kreteks I've had. If you've ever burned Himalayan rope incense or Bhutanese Yolmo incense, the unique spicey note in that incense really comes through in these cigarettes. The eugenol numbing effect is incredibly strong on these too. They taste top notch, but they are pretty harsh on your throat because of the density of the smoke and the thickness of the cig. They burn remarkably fast for an unfiltered cigarette, let alone king-sized. 9/10
Gudang Garam Surya: These are definitely my favorite filtered kreteks. They taste so much like unfiltered kreteks that it's remarkable. These have a very similar taste and smell to Merahs, but they are a bit sweeter. The smoke is fairly smooth, and these are very easy to chain smoke. They always seem to give me a pretty intense buzz. They smell incense-like when smoked, like the Merahs. I love these because of how strong the cloves are, and how pure they taste for having a filter. On an unrelated note, I was a little taken back by how large the packs are. These cigs are a bit longer than regular GG filtered cigs. 10/10
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| Djarum Cherry and Djarum Vanilla! |
[24 Jan 2012|07:11am] |
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Hey fellow clove lovers, I was just wondering if any of you were interested in Djarum Cherry and Vanilla. Not the cigars, but the old classic ones! I am in the talks to purchase a case of these and I wanted to know if any of you were interested as I sure don't have the need for 10 cartons of these, just drop me an email, PM or comment!
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| What's your favorite kretek and why? |
[09 Jan 2012|09:57pm] |
Just thought maybe I'd get a little discussion up in here. What are your guys' favorite kreteks?
I find myself going between Djarum 76s and Dji Sam Soe Unfiltered. Those two are the best I've ever tried. The 76s are super sweet, and they are very strong but yet super smooth. Really unlike any other unfiltered kretek. Dji Sam Soes are sweet and rich. Not as sweet as 76s, but they have that nice sweet, almost floral scent to the smoke and a pleasant clove sweetness when you inhale. The tobacco in the Dji Sam Soes is very rich and distinctive. Many people think they are harsh, but I think they are just very " bold".
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| Who wants to be in charge? |
[03 Jan 2012|11:29am] |
Alright - the time has arrived. I'm looking to step down as the creator/moderator of this community. It's been a really long time since I've smoked a clove cigarette, let alone a regular cigarette, and I just don't have the time or inclination to keep up with proper moderation here. Lately, there have been too many under 18 posts (kind of like the one *right below* this post) and unwanted spam/advertising here.
Who wants to be in charge? If you're interested in becoming the moderator, please leave a comment listing 1) why you want to be the moderator and 2) if you have any experience moderating other LJ communities. If you'd like to endorse someone else as the moderator, please use this post to do so.
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| Clove Recommendations |
[19 Dec 2011|11:51am] |
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I used to smoke the Sampoerna Classics (occasionally the Exclusives) and loved them - until PM got them and discontinued them. I've been searching what seems like forever for something as close as possible to these and have come up with nothing. I've tried most of the Djarum ones (the real ones), and so far what I seem to enjoy the most are the Gudang Garam Suraya 16's - although the Professionals & Milds aren't bad either. Anyone have any recommendations or even a recipe for rolling your own that tastes close to the Sampoerna Classics?
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| All out of Bali's and Splash's |
[13 Dec 2011|03:18pm] |
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I still have 7 packs of Super's, there's 12 per pack and they go for $12 each plus shipping. They are good old fashion clove cigarettes from Japan like the one's you used to get before the dark times.
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| Bali Hai $87.85 Shipped |
[21 Nov 2011|01:54pm] |
Hey people, I just wanted to let you know that for a limited time I have a few Bali Hai cartons available for purchase $87.85 shipped each.
Message me or email me dabbtt@gmail.com
Thanks.
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| First Order |
[20 Nov 2011|07:58pm] |
Hello all.
Hopefully you're not put off by this post. I'm new here... Be nice. Just tryin' to get my clove on.
I'll
start off by saying I recently ordered a carton of Djarum Blacks from
"a website" (content restrictions wouldn't let me post the name) after a friend suggested I do so. Details:
-Ordered on 11/12
-Processed through paypal 11/17
-Shipped 11/19
-currently en route...
I ordered before doing any research, as I trust my friend and he always
has cloves. But as I've been sitting around checking my order tracking
every half hour I looked around and have become increasingly worried. I
made it through the shipping phase with the site, which is the first
hurdle, though the only bad review I found was on this board. Now it's
mainly the single carton shaped package getting through customs. I'm
kinda glad I didn't know about the "gift" labeling because now that I
see everyone who orders cloves does that it seems like more of a red
flag for customs than a sure way to get through. Wish me luck
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| Splash's and Supers from Japan |
[16 Nov 2011|12:32pm] |
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I have a few packs of Splash's and Super's left. It's $10 for a pack of the Splash's and $12 a pack for the Super's you pay for the shipping. I can also get Bali's and Black Slims if anyone is interested let me know, thanx
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| Djarum Black, Supers |
[09 Nov 2011|08:23am] |
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![[info]](http://l-stat.livejournal.com/img/userinfo.gif?v=92.1) tikijohn_clove- November 9th, 7:39
Djarum Black, Black Menthols, Cappucinos, Supers
I'm located in los angeles and i sell real Djarums from indonesia. These are the real things. Not the cigars, mini cigars or cigarillos.
I just got 5 cartons of Djarum Black, 1 Carton of Black Menthols, packs of Djarum Supers and 2 cartons of Djarum Cappucinos from indonesia..I will be getting Djarum Browns in about a week. These are 16 cigs to a pack 10 packs to a carton. i sell them for 80 a carton + 6 shipping. I will sell half cartons or mix and match.
I take paypal and send out USPS priority mail with a tracking number.. .
You can contact me via this thread or directly at tikijohn@gmail.com
thanks
John
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| CiggiesWorld.com ??? |
[06 Nov 2011|06:31pm] |
I found Clove Addicts Journal a week ago and It's great to join a site of fellow kretek lovers.
I have a question: I'm getting ready to order online for the
first time and have been doing my due research. I found a site
called CiggiesWorld based in Australia. They have the kreteks
I want at good prices, but when I tried to find info or reviews for them I
came up with zilch - only 2 sites that smelled like vendor placed
reviews.
Does anyone here have any experience or stories about CiggiesWorld ?
Thanx
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[02 Nov 2011|10:01pm] |
Ive been buying from clovecigaretteshop.com and havent really had any problems, though it usually takes a week before they even ship once payment is sent, and having to pay with western union is kind of a hassle.
So this time Im trying inacigar.com due to the advice here.
I ordered yesterday and they have already shipped out. Which is really nice that I don't have to wait like I usually do with clovecigaretteshop.
JakartaBarat 11000 2011-11-02 18:54 Arrival at delivery office
JakartaBarat 11000 2011-11-02 18:56 Posting/Collection
JakartaBarat 11000 2011-11-02 18:56 Posting/Collection
JakartaSoekarnoHatta 19000 2011-11-03 00:05 Departure from outward OE
Will update when no information comes.
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[28 Oct 2011|04:55pm] |
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My camera decided to crap out on me, as I went to take the pictures. At any rate, my pakcage was in tiptop condition, two cartons, undamaged Djarum Black Menthol Kreteks. Package was as described, taped to Hell and back. Bascially, they sandwich your cigarettes betweens two slabs oc styrofoam, and tape the Hell out of it. Works very well, keeps customs out. Great experience, will use them again. I always have wondered about those Tea Djarums...
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| Djarums Sighting/Great Experience With Clove Seller |
[10 Oct 2011|07:52pm] |
Hey all, first time posting here but long time lurker/commenter. Really appreciate the advice I've gotten from most of you as far as which sites are or aren't reputable. I know most of us have resorted to ordering from overseas which, for a number of reasons (packages held at customs for weeks, language barrier between buyer/seller, not receiving items, etc.), have yielded less than favorable experiences.
Anyway I just wanted to pass along a seller on eBay who's not only based in the U.S., but is quick with communicating and shipping. I've ordered from him in the past and he's really great; particularly with the above Cherrys that we ALL know are scarce as all hell, but he's got Supers, Menthols, Balis and others as well.
Check out his page HERE.
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